Tatjana - progress reports

Very glad to hear that you’ve found your mojo again, Tatjana :sunny:

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Some people may need some background on that new Welsh word that Aran just slipped in there:

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I feel like conversation killer here right now, but I was so thrilled yesterday, listening to Listening practice at Challenge 10 that I just have to say this here.

This double speed listening practice is like a music to me. I was surprised that all of a sudden I’ve got quite some bits out from the whole conversation understanding almost whole sentences not just words. Nope, I didn’t cheat this time. I didn’t even read the transcript neither translation. I’ll keep them both unread for a while. I’m curious if I could at one point get whole conversation in without reading any of those texts at all.

I love Level 1 more and more but have to bear in mind I previously did whole Course 1 so it might be it all seams better and easier because of that fact though.

I’m corious what next listening practice with triple speed brings. That should be fun! :slight_smile:

The more you listen to it, the more this process should continue :sunny: :thumbsup:

Yet more surprising, it’s Northern listening exercise isn’t it?

If I one day speak Welsh fluently, it’s thanks to you @aran (and to @Iestyn’s propriately strict voice) :slight_smile:

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The differences are small enough for the listening exercises to be valuable either way round :sunny:

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I’ve just found out Challenge 13 in Level 1 is as taugh and frustrating as both Lessons 6 in Course 1. I’m totally lost …

Heia Tatjana,

What about this particular challenge is making it feel that way? The sentences get pretty long, if I remember correctly. I think it also brings in dweud wrth with its personal forms I think… Let us know and we’ll try to help.

Hwyl,

Stu

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Dweud is the slidest problem, I’m stuck with different way of past for him and her and yes, very long sentences. I can’t even remember the whole sentence in English what to form it in Welsh. (my constant problem though).

Suggestions: should I go back to Challenge 12 and then to Challenge 13 again or should I continue with Challenge 14 no matter what? I was thinking of repeating Challeng 12 and 13 and then go further as I’m not sure how much of previous things is practiced in Challenge 14. With more material it’s understandable not everything can be practiced in each and every Challenge further on.

This is extremely common Tatjana, just do not worry about it. If you cannot remember the whole thing, make up the ending yourself. Over time, you will get a lot better at remembering long sentences, but really, honestly, it is no big deal and not worth getting frustrated about :wink:

I suggest that you push on. I listened to Challenges 12 - 20 during my drive to and from Abertawe today, and you will get lots of practise with the key stuff in the upcoming lessons!

Most of all, take a deep breath, laugh at your mistakes, enjoy your Welsh and try not to be hard on yourself. Everyone has gone through what you are experiencing, and come out the other side a Welsh speaker - and so will you. There will be down days, but over time, the highs will overwhelm the lows and as you grow in experience, you will be happy to go with the flow, believe me. The best of luck with Challenge 14, and post back with how you get on; I am certain that your story will be here to inspire other learners to persevere long into the future!

Hwyl,

Stu

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This. Not every single word/structure is repeated in every session, but that’s because the structure of spaced repetition doesn’t require them to be - they are all, however, repeated often enough at the right kind of intervals for you to acquire them successfully if you keep on moving through the course :sunny:

I’ve pushed through the Challenge 14 yesterday only to find out I just couldn’t produce almost any single sentence so I might go back.

I just don’t quite get quite different aproach to past and future for he/she and now I’m even so confused I all of a sudden can’t remember even those I’ve learnt in Course 1. So I just now decided I’ll go back to Challenge 12 and do all three again.

I won’t post much in this topic anymore as I obviously talk too much (was warned by the forum system) and it might really be I’ve brought this topic to a bit different direction then it meant to be for what I apologize. I’ll give people space to discuss (despite I never meant to take it away from them).

So, now really, as said before in one of my previous posts, I’ll return in a month or two (hopefully if I won’t quit learning before that time)

Da boch a pob lwc i chi bawb.

I bet you don’t get warned half as often as I do! Don’t take the system warnings too literally…:wink:

You tend to rate yourself too harshly, Tatjana - I think it would be a really interesting exercise for you to attempt Challenge 15 before you go back and do a re-run through 12 onwards. If it confirms your feeling that you need to repeat, no harm done - but if you find that you do better than you were expecting, it would be a very useful nudge… :sunny:

Meanwhile, I’ll give your conversation its own thread, so that we leave this one clear for discussion about choosing which course :sunny:

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No, don’t stop posting Tatjana!

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Diolch yn fawr iawn.

Bydda i’n trio.

I went back to Challenge 12 in Level 1 and stucked with Challenge 13.

Move on to 14 Tatjana, no point in getting stuck!

Pob lwc,

Stu

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It seams like with math to me. If you don’t get it you just can’t go further as it’ll do no good. That’s why I’m lausy with math all the way. :slight_smile:

That really isn’t the way this method works. I remember distinctly the oain of old lessons 6a and b from Course 1, they seemed so hard! But Aran advised moving on, so I did. A week or so later, I really wondered why I had made such a fuss about those lessons, as they seemed straightforward having moved on. Getting stuck and just getting frustrated will get you nowhere, honestly. Trust the method and fire up Challenge 14!

Hwyl,

Stu

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I did a week ago and I’ve got nowhere. I’m not sure what part I do wrong, but at the moment Lesson 6a and b seams like balsam against Challenge 14.

But obviously it’s just me. Obviously I’m just too old to get rid off this perfectionist of mine so I suffer, I know.