I like nodiadur more.


I think the i stands for innovative

So if we did translate foreign products: pad-a or pad-n?

Pad-arloesedd or Pad-newyddbeth?


Actually scrap that the I stands for loads of things.


Personally I think we should use ‘padidot’ and ‘ffônidot’ for iPad and iPhone - not that I’ve heard anyone do so, I just like the sound of the words! :wink:

Being brand names they would not normally need a translation/Welsh term, but I think they are well on the way to becoming (or pretty much have become) a generic term much like Hoover, Jacuzzi or Google, so a Welsh word for a generic term hopefully wouldn’t infringe too much on Apple’s copyright!


Yes - I was just being a bit silly - doesn’t always come across that well on things like this.

Heard cnapiau cyw iar being discussed for a bit of fun - meaning chicken nuggets, this morning by the way! One of the presenters actually knew it already and they thought it was good for a bit of fun.


Haha, no don’t worry it did come across! I like these games!

@siaronjames i like ffônidot that has a nice ring to it…I’ll get my coat…


Diolch yn fawr! I am signing up! On my new laptop!
To @mikeellwood
I think we have ascertained that I am older than you and I am not notably flexible, although I am fairly skinny, but I first got a laptop back on Gower so that I could avoid having to go up to my office and could work on the sofa downstairs with my dogs. I have never used it and its successors anywhere but on my knee! It never occurred to me that it would be possible! It is very comfy like this. The only problem is if one’s dog… well Sammi used to put a paw out and type seeeeeeeex. Toffi wants to lick the screen!


I think I’m missing something here…does “dot” or “idot” have a special meaning?

oh hang on…GPC tells me that “idot” means a “dotted i”. Is that where this comes from?
In which case, I like it too. :slight_smile:


yes, i (when spelling or reciting the alphabet for instance) is i-dot (pronounced ee-dot). Because a u makes almost the same ee sound, to differentiate between them when spelling/saying alphabet, it is u-bedol (pronounced ee-bedol).


Yes, I know in theory they should be very good for that sort of thing, but I never ever felt comfortable using them that way. Wobbly keyboard for one thing. I suppose if one was watching a film or something it might be ok.

Ah well you see, that could account for the difference between us then, since I’m not remotely skinny! :slight_smile:


Aha, thanks Siaron. The Welsh alphabet is one of those things I feel I really ought to get to grips with “one of these days”. :slight_smile:


My problem with the Welsh alphabet is trying to avoid the urge to say ‘missus’ at the end after w (ooh), y (er)… :sweat_smile:


I am terrible for this when I really mean felly and end up repeatedly doing the ‘so, felly…’ cycle!


Hahaha! I LOVE Wales Shark! Once I started watching his vlog, I had to watch all 38 videos before I could go to bed!

He taught me my favorite (although apparently never used) word in Welsh so far: Ffawdheglu - which he defined literally as “fate skedaddling / fate scooting,” more commonly referred to in English as hitchhiking. Hahahaha! Absolutely love it. … and the part about King Arthur and bodio… oh dear!

I wish he was still making videos, the guy has a knack for making words memorable! “That’s what the internet is for! …I’m sorry, I’ll stop.” :+1: :blue_car: :rofl:

(A word of warning, not suitable for kids or work)


Although he doesn’t make videos anymore, despite how much I pester him every time I see him - he does pop up every now and then on a Hansh video…

Last time I saw him he was working behind the camera for Boom Cymru, who are a Welsh TV company who make a lot of shows for BBC and S4C. Really nice guy to boot!


I think people mixing up Saesneg and Cymraeg as they talk is quite fun. There’s another great s4c programme called Bwyd Epic Chris - about this community cook who does some pretty daft meaty cooking.

Anyway, the way he talks is really interesting - totally mixing up the languages. In one sentence I heard, he was talking about time. He said (something like) “Dylai fe goginio am pedwar awr - until three o’clock”

I do love the idea of using Cymraeg numbers for one part of a thought and English numbers for another.

Older people here have told me this is a disgusting thing that “ignorant people from Llanelli” do (which is hilarious - given that I’ve walked down the street in my town in the Valleys hundreds of times and never yet overheard a single person speaking Welsh).

It seems some people think it is better to hear no Welsh at all except in the back of a church on a Wednesday morning than to risk having people actually use and misuse it as a daily language.

Personally I’d rather hear it grammatically messed up and mixed up with English than not at all.


I think you’ve hit on something there. Some people probably think it belongs in Chapel, the Bible, and certain classical literary or historical works. And that to hear it outside is perhaps a form of sacrilege.


No I mentioned the church because a local group of old men meet there to talk in Welsh. Outside of that group, almost nobody speaks Welsh at all.