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Breakthroughs: Does anybody have small successes/breakthroughs speaking Cymraeg they want to share?


#1003

I’ve just completed Level 1 and am starting to use my Welsh - I often find myself thinking of replies in Welsh (so far, these have mostly been English conversations - but it’s a start!).
I also wrote half a message yn Cymraeg to one of my dear friends who is a first-language Welsh-speaker - and she said that my, “Cymraeg yn dda iawn”! I can’t wait to see her in person and have our first conversation in her Native tongue :grinning: BUT THAT’S NOT ALL… I’ve written my very first song IN WELSH!!! To be fair, I wrote it first in English many years ago, but (as it is being re-recorded) I’ve decided I’m going to sing it in Welsh. It’s called Lliwiau Enaid. Translating the lyrics into Welsh was a great experience… I confess, I did use an online dictionary and translator more than once, but I knew more of the words than I thought I would. There were some interesting changes in the process - in the original version I sing “…with the colours of my soul” and in Welsh it’s now “…gyda lliwiau fy enaid” (“with my soul’s colours”), which I preferred. All I hope now is that I haven’t written anything offensive by mistake… If anyone fancies looking over the words I would be ever so grateful :pray: Can’t wait to record the vocal this week - WAIT! … I’d completely forgotten about the proper pronunciation as well! Must do something about that, seeing as it matters more in a song to HEAR the correct word rather than SEE it, doesn’t it? :wink: Perhaps this particular success is slightly premature…


#1004

Not at all - llongyfarchiadau! I look forward to hearing it when you upload it!


#1005

Did anyone else here help out with the face to face Cymraeg survey about Health?

Anyway, I had a phone call on my work mobile this evening and for some sad reason I felt like answering it. It turned out to be a follow up from the survey - really polite and great fun :slight_smile: Although I understood every word, it took me a while to tune into the subject matter of the questions. The caller did try to help me with a bit of English, but I wasn’t having any of that :hot_face:

Hopefully, the chap on the phone wasn’t on time based commission. We got there in the end :slight_smile:


#1006

@marianne-williams That’s a really great achievement in such a short time! Da iawn ti! Well done! Challenges 13-15 are notoriously hard - there are mentions of those challenges elsewhere, and I remember the experience well as I learned them rather recently myself. Dal a ti! Keep it up! :grin:

That is lovely, thank you for sharing.

I have been listening to podcasts yn Gymraeg a lot lately, mainly the Pigeon one from the BBC. I have listened to one episode in particular more than the others because I like the subject matter as well as the personalities and voices of the participants… and most of all the fact that even on the first listen I felt like I was understanding at least 15-20%… I haven’t finished Level 1 yet, so I was feeling pretty good. Then, I listened again and again, and every time I listen I find more words I already know - and I even find myself learning new words based on their context! Being able to sit there and listen to people talk about music, the caste system in Nepal, having lots of tattoos, and learning Welsh. I sometimes found myself laughing with them as I understand the humor of the situation!

Dw i’n hapus iawn gyda feint dwi wedi dysgu yn barrod! Diolch yn fawr iawn!


#1008

Not a breakthrough speaking as such – more writing – but a success I wanted to share. I did a year of Mediaeval Welsh back in the day, of which I remember mostly just the experience of looking up every single word of Pwyll Pendefig Dyfed in the glossary until eventually one or two of them stuck. And so, when this drive to use word of mouth to recruit new subscribers started, it occurred to me that some present-day Welsh mediaevalists who are not Modern Welsh speakers might like the idea of a course that would rapidly get them speaking Modern Welsh, if only I could let them know that the course existed.

So I tried emailing someone I used to know from back then, who’s still in the same department (though now much more senior), and got no reply; I tried emailing the student subject society address, and got no reply; I tried a friend, who’s a mediaevalist at a different university, and she tagged some contacts, but nothing seemed to come of it. And then I found someone in the department whose bio mentioned (a) a couple of publications written in Welsh and (b) the fact that he’d at some point taught Modern Welsh… so I mailed him in Welsh… and got a reply back saying “Thank you very much and I shall share your message with all my students.” (In Welsh, of course.)

They still might not be interested, mind you, but at least they’ll know :slight_smile:


#1009

I started the 6 month course two years ago; having no background in Welsh, coming from England and not having any relatives in Wales i decided the best way for me to learn was a course like SSIW’s and moving to Wales. I have a lot of friends i met through my time in university, all from South Wales, all of whom are welsh-speaking, although, you’ll never find them speaking to each other in cymraeg as it’s not the language of everyday life in the south. I moved to Kenfig Hill Sept 2017 and slowly began my learning. I took an evening class in Bridgend, really felt I was progressing a lot faster than everyone else and eventually when I was the only person left in the class (sadly very common occurrence for welsh courses) I made the choice to go it alone.
Meanwhile, summer 2018 was coming, level 2 of the 6 month course was up and I managed to get a space on the Bwtcamp course with Iestyn in Tresaith.

I rocked up, incredibly late - someone drove into the side of my truck whilst en route to Tresaith. After a lengthy conversation with the police, insurance and cyclists who caught the whole scene on their camera(!) I made it to bwtcamp but was incredibly nervous. I felt like all the welsh i’d learn in those few months has left my head with the crash.
Turns out it hadn’t! What a week! I was praised by a lot of people on my speaking ability given my short learning period. I recommend everyone go to a bwtcamp if at all possible. It helped my speaking skills immeasurably. The early morning swims and the dolphin spotting wasn’t too bad either.

I had to leave bwtcamp early on the last day as i was driving to Stonehenge with 3 of my friends to work a friend’s wedding. I picked up my friends in Kenfig Hill in my courtesy car and felt entirely different in my ability to speak welsh to them. I refused to change back to English for a long section of the drive, after an entire week of cymraeg it felt really odd and unsatisfying to have to revert back to my english mothertongue.
Obviously driving through England to work at a wedding for non-welsh speaking people, i had to deal with changing back to English.
But my breakthrough came that evening. I had a 1 1/2 hour conversation entirely in cymraeg with one of my friends after work finished. Not one word of english. I even corrected and helped my friend with a couple words she had forgotten. I had gone from token ‘sut wyt ti?’ conversations a week before to having full-blown, two-sided chats with my best friends in another language that I hadn’t know not a year ago. It felt amazing!!

Sorry for the essay, I know i’m no writer but it was a great week and I wanted to share. Albeit very tardily. Unfortunately i’ve since moved to Australia and i rarely get a chance to practice Welsh anymore. But planning on moving back home before the year’s out and then I want to work on getting to fluency. Diolch


#1010

Working through Level 1 Challenge 24 earlier, I found I had translated a NEW phrase English into Welsh from the initial prompt, when the vocabulary was still being introduced! To be fair, it built on past words, but in a new tense! So, as Iestyn was saying “I heard you are going to…” I was already saying, “Clywes i bod ti’n mynd i…” I was pretty surprised when I realized he was giving the Welsh for the first time as I finished! :grinning:

Also, just having finished Challenge 24 a few minutes ago, Iestyn told me at the end that I am “the real deal now…” and that moved me so much! It feels really good. :star_struck:


#1011

One for any doubting Thomases still out there. In the lead up to the Parti Penblwydd I made myself a playlist of the level 2 super speeded up listening exercises from North and South and have been listening on my dog walks every day for a month. And I’ve started to hear quite a few snatches of phrases from both too.

I’ve just gone back and listened to the Nia Price episode of Beca a’i Phobl. Nia speaks incredibly fast, and at the time I found her almost incomprehensible. But after a month of half an hour a day of speeded up listening, I could understand soooo much more.I

Gives me a bit of confidence that I will cope this weekend in Caernarfon!


#1012

Oh hi Becky! I was just looking through the posts as part of my weekly tasks and spotted yours mentioning Parkrun, of which I’m also a fan! Then I thought “I recognize that face”!! Wyt ti’n mynd i rhedeg Parkrun bore ‘fory?#gppledgeparkrun. Maria xx


#1013

Love speaking to Welsh speakers in work. Have been brave enough to start conversations with them and they’ve been really helpful and appreciative.


#1014

Hi Maria! Oes, dw’yn mynd i parkrun Dydd Sadwrn, dw’yn wirfoddolwr a parkrun Gnoll #gppledgeparkrun xx


#1015

woa that’s amazing mate!! Now I wanna go to bwtcamp even more!!


#1016

Went down to the Urdd yesterday and ordered my food and drink in welsh. I didn’t know the word for bottle, so asked how to say it in welsh and had a small lesson for the word(s) to use all in cymraeg until another customer came :smiley:
Small steps still lead to the top of the mountain!


#1017

What time is this on…?


#1018

I usually catch it on my way home from work (which varies) but between 4 and 6…sorry, a bit vague, but I’ve never checked the actual time - it’s just on while I’m driving every now and then :rofl:


#1019

Hi, Just read you message. wanted to say hello, I too live in Kenfig Hill…byd bach.
I’m only on week 18, but in case you’re intersted a small group of us meet in The Aberavon Beach Hotel every 2 weeks if possible for a chat, some word games/quizzes etc. Next meet in 5th June 6.30pm if you’re free. There is a thread in the forum. Also I’m hoping to do a bootcamp in the future (gulp) Diolch :slight_smile:


#1020

In the office yesterday someone wanted to know the Welsh word for ‘talking’ and I was able to answer :relaxed: this is the first time I’ve ever been able to use my Welsh in a professional setting. I’ve been ill the last 2 weeks and not able to practice much so even though this was a tiny thing it really helped me feel like I’m still making progress.


#1021

Not so much a success as a major lost opportunity. I was serving today in the shop in our Oxfordshire village when I had a brief conversation in Welsh with a customer. I have known him slightly for about 10 years, and have now discovered that he is a first language Welsh speaker. He is about to move house and leave the village. Am I kicking myself?
Sue


#1022

Dw i newydd anfon fy e-bost cyntaf yn Gymraeg.
I’ve just sent my first ever e-mail in Cymraeg!! :slight_smile:


#1023

Depends - how far away is he moving?