'Jump In The Deep End' Course

Yes! Got the structure figured out, and currently writing it all up - so it will, to my considerably surprise, actually be ready for the first people to finish the 6 month courseā€¦ :slight_smile:

But it turned out to be tricky/impossible to make it work for a) people whoā€™d finished the 6 month course and b) people whoā€™d done Level 1 - so what weā€™ll be recommending is that people whoā€™ve done Level 1 under their own steam do the same with Level 2 before jumping in at the Deep End for Level 3ā€¦ :slight_smile:

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Thanks Aran for your speedy response.

I have completed the old level 1 course. I have done this with a friend with the supervision of my mother in law - a first language Welsh speaker and former welsh teacher. Level 1 went well but struggling with motivation with level 2 - a combination of a new baby and getting us all in a room together to get a lesson done.

My question is, is the two year course any different to the standard course - any extra learning aides etc. Or would you suggest We soldier through level 2 and then going the jump in the deep end later on?

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When do you plan to unveil the structure/content for the In at the Deep End Course, Aran? People are chomping at the bit now! :yum:

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Yup, the structured courses basically = the lesson content + the extra steps weā€™ve discovered on intensive courses are necessary to make sure everyone ends up talking successfully - so itā€™s a different beast to ā€˜lessons on their ownā€™ā€¦

But itā€™s currently not possible to start half-way through - so I think youā€™d be best off pushing yourselves through Level 2 before joining the Deep Endā€¦ :slight_smile:

Got to finish writing it firstā€¦ :wink: And then weā€™ll open the doorsā€¦ :slight_smile:

@aran
I finish the 6months course on Sunday 19th and I would like to do the ā€˜Deep Endā€™ course. I noticed there are Deep End channels on our 6 month Slack group, so I assume this is going to be up and running soon.

Is it OK to Start Level 3 next week even if youā€™re not quite ready?

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https://www.saysomethingin.com/welsh/deepend

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Out of curiousity: Is any of these courses suitable for someone like me who doesnā€™t live even near to the speaking Welsh areas and canā€™t get access to them just with the click of the fingers? I presume the Deep end means thereā€™s a lot of live, everyday speaking involved. Youā€™d of course be able to nudge some people to go in a chat via Skype, Slack or similar on a daily basis but I believe itā€™s not even close as reaching out to the real Welsh community and jump into daily conversations.

Donā€™t understand me wrong though (too many people think Iā€™m complaining when I put such questions forward, but Iā€™m not.) Iā€™m just asking a simple question which might be of some interest to other people not living in Wales also.

Diolch.
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@aran - paid my first payment!

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Theyā€™re all built with an international audience in mind (although of course people in areas where a lot of Welsh is spoken will find some things a bit easier to arrange, inevitably)ā€¦ :slight_smile:

Whoo-hoo! I wonder if that makes you the first Deep Enderā€¦ :star: :star2:

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So I presume this works more or less like a Bobsleed run where you donā€™t need to be ā€œon the spotā€ (read somewhere with other learners also doing Deep End). Am I right into thinking this? If so I might jump in one (not so distant) day just to boost my lazyness out of me and force myself to work properly. At the moment Iā€™m prety much doing the ā€œjump out the deep endā€ rather than in ā€¦ But this must change one way or another I think. :slight_smile:

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Hi @aran , I have just finished the old course 3 after level 3. (you made me cry at the end of course 3 - in a good way!)
Do you think the deep end course would be good for me? I need to improve my range of vocabulary and fluency. I have managed the bwtcamp therapy weekend and a visit from Milla and Elizabeth Jane Corbett this summer but I really want to improve my fluency so that I will be comfortable volunteering at next years Eisteddfod.

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Aran, I finished Level 3 under my own steam in April, and since then I have been trying to take part in 1 or 2 hangouts on Slack every week, as well as listening to Radio Cymru as often as I can and doing a little reading.

My questions are (a) would the Deep End course be suitable for someone like me? And (b) is it something you can start at any time? Iā€™m going to be away quite a bit in Sept / Oct so not the best time to commit right now. Iā€™d love to have a go at it after that though, if thatā€™s an option.I

Iā€™m another one who doesnā€™t live anywhere near a Welsh speaking area.

Oh, and where do I look to find out about costs?

Thank you!

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Ahem, sorry about that :flushed: :wink:

People whoā€™ve done Level 3 - I would personally tend to think that itā€™s just about you taking responsibility for your own frequency of usage - in other words, the Deep End wonā€™t introduce you to new material - but if you feel that youā€™re not going to press on without the appropriate kicks in appropriate areas, then the challenges it sets (if you accept them!) might be the push you need.

If Iā€™d done Level 3, I wouldnā€™t do the Deep End - Iā€™d just be down the pub - but I might not be a good model, because I donā€™t think Iā€™d have done the 6 month course eitherā€¦:wink:

The Deep End is going to be the same as the 6 month course (which is in the process of moving over to Ā£40 a month) but for just the 3 months instead of 6ā€¦ :slight_smile:

So, since we (where I work) are media house with about 47 cafee bars (yup these too) allover Slovenia, I just have to persuade the carrer of those bars to recruite some Welsh staff in each of them (one being in my birth city near where I live also). Esay-peesy! :slight_smile:

Wish me luck on this. :slight_smile:

Siriously now, thank you for an answer which answers my question too. But well, this Deep end is not on location, yes but you can do it at home, right?

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I think that I have had sufficient kicks from @elizabeth_jane, Iā€™ll go to the pubā€¦

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Did I kick you? :flushed: I thought you were highly motivated - Bootcamp, Mila, me, Cymdeithas yr Iaith. You are on the way my friend. Donā€™t doubt yourself.

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Of course in the best most encouraging and caring way. I have a renewed enthusiasm!

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Now thatā€™s a superb ideaā€¦ :slight_smile: :slight_smile:

Yup, you can do this at homeā€¦ :slight_smile:

Thanks, Aran. Iā€™ll keep going as I am for now then and see how I do. Itā€™s more opportunity than motivation that I am seeking - and I guess itā€™s up to.me to make sure I make best use of Slack, the Forum etc!

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Original source of my trepidation about what happens to those who have finished the 6mws ā€¦ the going through a door and falling into a void sequence in thisā€¦
The true meaning of the code ā€œThe Deep Endā€ :wink:

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