Yes! Got the structure figured out, and currently writing it all up - so it will, to my considerably surprise, actually be ready for the first people to finish the 6 month courseā¦
But it turned out to be tricky/impossible to make it work for a) people whoād finished the 6 month course and b) people whoād done Level 1 - so what weāll be recommending is that people whoāve done Level 1 under their own steam do the same with Level 2 before jumping in at the Deep End for Level 3ā¦
I have completed the old level 1 course. I have done this with a friend with the supervision of my mother in law - a first language Welsh speaker and former welsh teacher. Level 1 went well but struggling with motivation with level 2 - a combination of a new baby and getting us all in a room together to get a lesson done.
My question is, is the two year course any different to the standard course - any extra learning aides etc. Or would you suggest We soldier through level 2 and then going the jump in the deep end later on?
Yup, the structured courses basically = the lesson content + the extra steps weāve discovered on intensive courses are necessary to make sure everyone ends up talking successfully - so itās a different beast to ālessons on their ownāā¦
But itās currently not possible to start half-way through - so I think youād be best off pushing yourselves through Level 2 before joining the Deep Endā¦
Got to finish writing it firstā¦ And then weāll open the doorsā¦
@aran
I finish the 6months course on Sunday 19th and I would like to do the āDeep Endā course. I noticed there are Deep End channels on our 6 month Slack group, so I assume this is going to be up and running soon.
Is it OK to Start Level 3 next week even if youāre not quite ready?
Out of curiousity: Is any of these courses suitable for someone like me who doesnāt live even near to the speaking Welsh areas and canāt get access to them just with the click of the fingers? I presume the Deep end means thereās a lot of live, everyday speaking involved. Youād of course be able to nudge some people to go in a chat via Skype, Slack or similar on a daily basis but I believe itās not even close as reaching out to the real Welsh community and jump into daily conversations.
Donāt understand me wrong though (too many people think Iām complaining when I put such questions forward, but Iām not.) Iām just asking a simple question which might be of some interest to other people not living in Wales also.
Theyāre all built with an international audience in mind (although of course people in areas where a lot of Welsh is spoken will find some things a bit easier to arrange, inevitably)ā¦
Whoo-hoo! I wonder if that makes you the first Deep Enderā¦
So I presume this works more or less like a Bobsleed run where you donāt need to be āon the spotā (read somewhere with other learners also doing Deep End). Am I right into thinking this? If so I might jump in one (not so distant) day just to boost my lazyness out of me and force myself to work properly. At the moment Iām prety much doing the ājump out the deep endā rather than in ā¦ But this must change one way or another I think.
Hi @aran , I have just finished the old course 3 after level 3. (you made me cry at the end of course 3 - in a good way!)
Do you think the deep end course would be good for me? I need to improve my range of vocabulary and fluency. I have managed the bwtcamp therapy weekend and a visit from Milla and Elizabeth Jane Corbett this summer but I really want to improve my fluency so that I will be comfortable volunteering at next years Eisteddfod.
Aran, I finished Level 3 under my own steam in April, and since then I have been trying to take part in 1 or 2 hangouts on Slack every week, as well as listening to Radio Cymru as often as I can and doing a little reading.
My questions are (a) would the Deep End course be suitable for someone like me? And (b) is it something you can start at any time? Iām going to be away quite a bit in Sept / Oct so not the best time to commit right now. Iād love to have a go at it after that though, if thatās an option.I
Iām another one who doesnāt live anywhere near a Welsh speaking area.
People whoāve done Level 3 - I would personally tend to think that itās just about you taking responsibility for your own frequency of usage - in other words, the Deep End wonāt introduce you to new material - but if you feel that youāre not going to press on without the appropriate kicks in appropriate areas, then the challenges it sets (if you accept them!) might be the push you need.
If Iād done Level 3, I wouldnāt do the Deep End - Iād just be down the pub - but I might not be a good model, because I donāt think Iād have done the 6 month course eitherā¦
The Deep End is going to be the same as the 6 month course (which is in the process of moving over to Ā£40 a month) but for just the 3 months instead of 6ā¦
So, since we (where I work) are media house with about 47 cafee bars (yup these too) allover Slovenia, I just have to persuade the carrer of those bars to recruite some Welsh staff in each of them (one being in my birth city near where I live also). Esay-peesy!
Wish me luck on this.
Siriously now, thank you for an answer which answers my question too. But well, this Deep end is not on location, yes but you can do it at home, right?
Thanks, Aran. Iāll keep going as I am for now then and see how I do. Itās more opportunity than motivation that I am seeking - and I guess itās up to.me to make sure I make best use of Slack, the Forum etc!
Original source of my trepidation about what happens to those who have finished the 6mws ā¦ the going through a door and falling into a void sequence in thisā¦
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