My #2 Trip to Wales - Summary+The Plan


[Compact Version]

On a summer day with not much to do, I decided to give a try to a SSiW challenge. Fast forward to 6 months later, I’m wandering around Wales and I realize that…I’m actually able communicate with people in Welsh. How could this happen? The first time I came to the UK, I had studied English for 7 years at school already, but could understand or say almost nothing.

And the most amazing thing is people’s reaction when I say I’m from Italy and ask:
“Is it ok if I try to speak Welsh with you?”

[#1 surprised face, like “Oh wow, an Italian learning our language?”]

“Sure, it’s fine! Do you live here?”

“No, no. It’s just I liked the sound of it and the songs of a band called Datblygu, so I decided to learn it”

[#2 surprised face, like “You must be a little crazy, but that’s ok anyway”]

At this point, I…well…say something in Welsh, right? Amazingly enough, they usually understand me, and answer with something that I usually pretty much understand, too.

“Da iawn! How long have you been learning?”

“Six months”

[#3 surprised face, like “Months? How come my cousin has been studying it for years and still can’t put a few sentences together?”]

If there’s enough time, then, we have a basic conversation and sometimes people end up thanking me as if it was some kind of favour or sacrifice I’m doing. But the truth is…I’m enoying myself!

P.S. By the way - back home now, I really liked Wales and people were absolutely lovely, I hope to come back soon!

Long version, with more details and thanks, etc. will follow. Though it was just 4 days (I saved money on travel costs, but oh it took ages to get there and come back) it was such a busy schedule, I need time to write a full report! :smiley:

[Tour diary - Day 1] Roaming around Wales, speaking Welsh

I’ll look forward to that!

I was very surprised by your picture of the road saying ‘look left’ , saying maybe you were in Wales - I thought perhaps Datblygu have given you a call to help with a new album or something!..

.and then suprised again to see you in the meet up photos - how lovely - and hear that you’d gone to Aber with @dee - fantastic!

It makes me realise once again what a great community of very friendly people we have here.

:slight_smile: :slight_smile: :slight_smile:



Oh that maybe was just for fun and to keep a certain aura of mystery. :sunglasses:

And although…oh well, although it wasn’t Datblygu calling me…heh heh…but me calling them (for a project I will explain later) they were part of my busy schedule in fact. So…pretty close! :wink:

I have to admit my brain was so focused on Welsh and a whirlwind of events and meetings :dizzy_face: that I totally forgot to take pictures with all the nice people from this wonderful community and with the nice people from outside the Forum that I met! :no_mouth:
But sure I will remember it all anyway, I had such a great time! :slightly_smiling_face::heart_eyes:


[Long version - Part 1]

Planning the tour

When I started SSiW, I had made a deal with myself to carry on for three months, no matter what. But after that, how would I be able keep my motivation high, for three more months?

A trip to Wales, to test my Welsh out in the wild sounded like a good idea.

My keystones were: South Wales (well, I did the Southern course!), one week, low-budget, lots of chances to listen and speak. But to be honest, I didn’t know much about Wales and didn’t know where to start. Maybe the Forum could help? I had only been around for about a month, but a couple of useful hints were easy to find:

  • someone, @dee, had a spare room/AirBnB called Nyth y Kiwi in Llandysul and was willing to help learners and ruthlessly, but patiently, speak Welsh all the time with them.
  • at a reasonable distance, there were quite a few meet ups/grwpiau sgwrsio for learners going on

I checked the availability of the room, then found flights at £ 17 to/from Stansted and £ 12 coaches to/from Carmarthen. Enough to start.

Next, according to dates, locations and inspiration, I chose a few meetings:

Planning how to understand and speak enough Welsh in the wild

At that point, I was only able to:

  • say a bunch of sentences and words from the first SSiW challenges
  • remember and sort of sing along a few Datblygu songs
  • understand about 1 word per minute in an average conversation on the radio

I guessed I’d need a bit more than that, to survive in the wild. So I looked for tips and hints here on the Forum and around the web, especially on polyglots’ websites and YouTube channels.

Among those, the most enlightening for me was a video (found via of this talk by Anthony Lauder:

The first guideline I decided to follow was:
“Fluency is not about a big vocabulary. Fluency is about being quick, smooth and in control of what you already have”.

Then second guideline, that I heard several times from polyglots and also often found mentioned here, for example by @aran and @garethrking:
Just give your brain exposure to the language, even if you don’t [completely, consciously] understand what you hear.

So I quit trying to learn words with flashcards, illustrated dictionaries and apps - proven an useless and boring effort for me.

For structured learning, I focused just on SSiW challenges: Level 1 and 2 and later Advanced Content. With lotsa questions on this forum (with plenty thanks to all those who take the time to answer to all our beginners’ questions!)

For exposure, I listened to Radio Cymru, watched programmes and series on S4C (now officially available outside the UK, at last!) and of course kept on listening to Datblygu songs - plus a few others that I discovered mostly thanks to this forum and especially @robbruce .

For extra self-training, I just tried to think of sentences I’d be likely to need or want to say.

How did it work? If you’re curious, you’ll find out as soon as I manage to write a full report -I was in a whirlwind all the time and it’s complicated! - although the compact report at the beginning of this thread should already give a general idea… :wink:


Looking forward to this! :slightly_smiling_face:


Hey, @gisella-albertini - have you heard that there’s a practice partner headed your way?


No I hadn’t heard, yet! :smiley:

Considering that football players are superstars in Italy, I’m a supporter of the other team in the city (Torino Football Club) and his wage :open_mouth:, I doubt we’re going to hang out in the same places and we’re very unlikely to meet.
But of course, if I ever see him around town, I’ll be ready to shout something in Cymraeg! :grin:

However from now on I can expect a sudden increase in popularity of Wales over here, and that some people will start to say “Oh you can talk to Aaron Ramsey then” instead of “Why?” “It must be very complicated” when they hear I’m learning Welsh.