The SSiW 10th B'day Party 2019 - initial discussion and ideas

Yes! I completely agree. I had plenty to eat and quite enjoyed it , but I didn’t feel as if I’d had anything all that special, which was disappointing. We were the last ones to go to the buffet and a lot of things had finished, salad particularly. The pasta confused me, I couldn’t understand why there was so much of it and why it was so very spicy? I also wasn’t keen on how it was all presented. It was ok and did the job on the night, but I would have liked it to have been a little more special.

I was the one, along with Elin at the Galeri, who chose the buffet dishes. On paper it seemed interesting and appealing, with plenty of choices, but when all laid out it was a different story.

One point to note is that they are fairly new to catering for larger functions and for really big things like weddings, they have an outside caterer come in.

Here’s a question, would you have been happy to pay a little more for better food?

The reason I’m asking is because the Galeri charge for individual items and I was trying to keep the ticket price as reasonable as possible. So there was room hire, table hire, PA system hire, then separate individual prices for each food item as well as tea and coffee, then the Prosecco toast. I made the decision not to have desert because of the cake, I didn’t think people would want to have both?

I also like a buffet and fear that a sit down meal would hinder the socialising process and be rather expensive. Maybe something in between would be better? What about a buffet, with servers, which cater a choice of hot and cold dishes?


I hear you on the dress front. Suit hire is expensive. Also some people don’t like to dress so formally. I certainly don’t want anyone to feel uncomfortable with what they’re having to wear. Then again, I like the idea of a bit of a posh do. How about we say that we’re aiming for posh/suited and booted, but at the end of the day, there’s no pressure?


Keeping the price at a reasonable level is definitely something we will try very hard to do. We will also give people plenty of notice for such a large event.


Would a date a little later in to Spring and early Summer be more attractive? I’m thinking about being outside and enjoying more informal, inexpensive get-togethers, say outside the Anglesey for instance, for drinks and games or drinks and singing. Walks along the castle walls. Activities in Coed Helen park. Historical activities outdoors in the Segontiwm ruins. a trip on the Queen of the Sea along the Menai?


Also thinking that we can get badges printed next time… :wink:

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I think the thing with categorising the badges can go two ways -
In the not-so-good scenario, I can see where it might put off people less confident using their Welsh from approaching someone they think (however mistakenly :wink: ) would be much to fluent to converse with. In this case I think it would be up to those with a ‘lots of Welsh please’ badge to make a special effort to approach them - which, to be fair, is very likely to happen anyway :slight_smile:

On the other hand, I can see where it would be useful for more fluent/confident speakers to know at what level to pitch their conversation and speed they talk at. It would also, I think, be more friendly to those who are partnering or tempted to begin learning because it would perhaps save them constantly explaining or apologising that they don’t speak any Welsh (yet!).

It would be interesting to have some feedback from the party from those who felt they were in the ‘bit-of-both’ and ‘mostly English’ camps, since I can only really speak for myself, obviously.

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Something that could have been better with the buffet (apart from more salad!) would have been better indication of what was suitable for vegetarians/vegans.

If it was warmer weather (and tide-times permitting), I’d be happy to take a group along the Menai foreshore for some beachcombing and hunting for ‘dagrau môr-forynion’.

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Maybe Rhys Mwyn could be persuaded to chat about Segontium? He did a Criccieth Castle trip for Nant Gwrtheyrn so might well be up for it, and I’ve a feeling he lives somewhere close to Segontium - perhaps he’d consider doing it for a nominal sum as it’s a special occasion? :slight_smile:

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Rhys took a tour on two of the bootcamps I attended, once up Tre’r Ceiri and the other around Caernarfon so he is already very familiar with SSiW.

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Yes, this. I’m a recently converted “public vegetarian” (not an official phrase before anyone googles it).

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We definitely need the opinion of a non Welsh speaker for this, I sat on a table with 3 people who didn’t speak Welsh, I had some great conversations in English, some people may have missed out.

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I like the Galeri but find this rather shocking, is this the norm? In the Wrexham area you would hire a room and get the tables, the buffet would be charged per head with choices dictating what the “per head” is (usually between about £2.50 for something basic and about £10 for something absolutely incredible).

About the dessert and cake … Hello, I’m Geraint, nice to meet you. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

The buffet in the party in Aberystwyth was really, really nice. There was someone floating around behind the tables filling things as they emptied, answering questions about the food, etc. I don’t think there’s any need for someone to actually serve the food.

I don’t think having a dress code is unreasonable, maybe saying shirt and tie minimum would be fine. It would be fine for me anyway. :blush: Also it’s not very often Tracey gets to dress up. :heart_eyes:[quote=“catrinlliarjones, post:21, topic:8076”]
Also thinking that we can get badges printed next time.
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I think the badges cost about £6 to make so won’t be expensive to do again.

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I hear you on the dress front. Suit hire is expensive.

I still have my dinner jacket / tuxedo. The trouser waist size is 32" / 81 cm, so there would need to be two years of extreme dieting for me.

You’ve had so many good suggestions that I have none to add. I just want it to happen. :thumbsup:

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Common practice in many places I think, depending on the nature of the establishment. Because the Galeri isn’t a hotel, rather a multi function venue, this is to be expected unfortunately. A larger function such as the ones in the theatre would require a lot of hiring from other suppliers. But the prices per head aren’t that extortionate for individual items - it’s just that they add up. But still we were able to keep the price per head slightly less than previous years. Maybe an extra £3 or so per head would have given the buffet a much needed boost?

Oh yeah, right… :joy::joy::joy:

The last time in Aber was terrible for me. Many items were missing from the buffet and some dishes had been changed without consultation. The order of the eve and general arrangements were messed up and I spent most of the party running around looking for staff and trying to iron out problems - not fun unfortunately. I felt they really let me down. :confused:

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Also it’s not very often Tracey gets to dress up. :heart_eyes:[/quote]

That’s it, decision made - smart dress it is… :dress: :high_heel: :crown: :tropical_drink: :lipstick:

You may regret saying this… :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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One more suggestion about the badges (if we do go down the line of some sort of colour coding) that has just occurred to me. Identical badges similar to those that Gruntius (expertly) produced, but perhaps we could just add coloured paperclips for the ‘coding’ - easy and cheap to do, much less hassle than wondering how many of each colour to produce and interchangeable if required (e.g. after a bit of practice or a few drinks!)

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Oh, right, well, after talking to Trace she kind of agreed, the first time was really nice but the second year was nowhere near as good. Agreed. :blush: [quote=“catrinlliarjones, post:30, topic:8076”]
You may regret saying this
[/quote]hmph! Well, with more time it wouldn’t be difficult. I left it a little late this time.

As far as the overall price is concerned, I think, for the majority of people a little extra won’t break the bank. We’ll see what everyone else thinks.

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Just to say: I will personally take on the black tie hiring costs for the joy of seeing The Beard in a DJ.

One thing: I don’t think you can do ‘suited/booted or DJ, hey, it’s up to you’ - no man is going to come in black tie unless he’s certain that everyone else is too. I think we will need to make a decision one way or the other on this one.

Me, I’m up for black tie - once every ten years or so feels do-able for me (I think the last time I black tied was for the Inspiring Wales awards?).

I agree that it’s important we don’t go overboard with events/activities.

I think maybe a combination of ‘local businesses promoting stuff in a way which emphasises talking about it’ plus having a bunch of interesting Welsh speakers around to do bits of performing but also to talk to lots of learners would make for an interesting day.

I kind of love the idea of a group trip on Queen of the Sea - although I’m not sure how many people could do that.

@CatrinLliarJones - how about getting a quote from the Galeri now for booking the whole of it for a couple of days? And finding out what their limits are for how many people?

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On it like a car bonnet… :joy:

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So, thus far we more or less agree on…

  • Some sort of colour coded badge system

  • A weekend of activities plus party on the Saturdy night

  • An award ceremony of sorts, but definitely awarding those who have contributed to/helped Welsh learners

  • Hot rather than cold food but possibly still in a buffet style and with more choice plus pudding and veggie/vegan choices clearly labelled

  • Formal/smart dress of sorts

How about these suggestions…

  • A two tier ticket system for those who want to do the whole weekend and those who just want to do the party? If you go for the weekend ticket then you can attend as many or as few activities as you want?

  • How about interesting tie instead of black tie? There are some awesome draig goch bow ties to be had which you could wear with a regular suit. The price of a red dragon/red/green/colourful bow tie would be significantly cheaper than hiring a dinner suit and you could wear it with a regular shirt and jeans if you wanted or a formal suit?

And how about these activity suggestions…

  • Choir workshop - loads of learners get together with a local choir master for an hour in one of the studios in the Galeri for a singing session - possibly focusing on one song such as Calon Lan or the anthem?

  • A dawnsio gwerin session?

  • A Yoga session in Welsh with Leisa Mererid?

  • A Welsh books intro by Eirian from Palas Print and a few authors reading out their work and signing copies?

  • An historical walk with Rhys Mwyn?

  • A wine and beer tasting session in Welsh with local brewers?

  • A fun drama session with someone from Rownd a Rownd?

Whaddyathink?

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Creative idea - not sure I can see it working, though - I’d be concerned that we’d end up with a bit of a group divide - and it would also make figuring out the cost/pricing a real headache, with much more risk of us ending up further out of pocket than the company can manage…

We’ve got to have a chat about what men wear at some point…:wink:

‘Interesting tie’ is included in black tie - you’ll always see the occasional ‘mad bow-tie’ thing happening, as you know from your own family…:wink: It’s also entirely possible if it’s suited/booted. So silly ties or not, we still need to make the core decision - black tie or not. :slight_smile:

Just a thought. Is there to be a pre-party bwtcamp again? If so, it would be a lot of faff to bring a an evening suit and posh shoes from overseas for the bwtcampers

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Not entirely sure. We found this arrangement a little hectic this time round and we ended up with too many balls in the air and not quite enough hands to catch them. Then again, next year we won’t be in the throws of renovating a chalet and it’s possible that Angharad won’t be in the chaotic run up to her annual dance show and busy with 3 hour long dress rehearsals! :wink:

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Wow… sounds fabulous. I might have to somehow wrangle a trip to Wales for the occasion…

'Twould be fun to go all black-tie, but would be happy to just be able to attend, so it’s not a fuss for me any way that rolls.

As for tickets, certainly if I’m coming, it would have to be the whole weekend :wink:

Activity suggestions? My only experience with yoga is one session feeling uncomfortable in awkward poses, so might skip that, but everything else sounds absolutely grêt. If we do a choral thingy, it would be cool to do more than just a single well-known piece, but then I’m an enthusiastic singer…

So, what do I think: :thumbsup:

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