Tiny questions with quick answers - continuing thread

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#4149

Awesome cheers John! Much appreciated. That’s just opened loads I can say in conversations.

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#4150

Sort of Interest related, so not really any need for an urgent answer:
Does “Ar y Sul” as in the folksong have any idiomatic meaning beyond it’s literal translation, which I’m taking as: on (the) Sunday?

Also dros y sul, instead of dros y penwythnos.

#4151

http://www.s4c.cymru/clic/e_level2.shtml?programme_id=531999379

Chris Chopping is what one might call a brave learner…
from Minute 2-9

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#4152

Ar y Sul = on Sundays (for the more specific “on Sunday” or “on the Sunday”, it would be Ar ddydd Sul / Ar y dydd Sul).

yup, “Dros y Sul” = over the weekend (and can also be heard used in an adjective kind of way e.g. weekend bag = bag dros y sul)

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#4153

Ah, great thanks, Siaron. That was quick!

#4154

I am used to hearing ‘syniad’ for idea and have come across ‘ensyniad’ for insinuation. So I expected ‘ensynio’ for insinuate and have heard it said that way but Aran and Catrin sound to me like they are saying ‘ensyni’. I have heard it pronounced more like ‘ensynia’ but not ‘ensyni’. Am I mishearing it or is this another variation, please, or maybe a different use of the word?
Thank you in anticipation.

Raymond

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#4155

Yes: GPC dictionary has:
Ensyniad = insinuation, innuendo; idea.
Ensynio = insinuate

#4156

Ensynio sounds anglicised to me - not saying it actually is - but I’ve obviously picked up ensynu from somewhere, and even if the GPC doesn’t like it, I still do… :slight_smile:

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#4157

How do you “have” something abstract, like having a meeting? Is that using cael, or is that done with gyda, as it would if you possessed something? Cael would be my instinct “Dw i’n cael cyfarfod heddiw” because I can’t imagine saying that I have a meeting “with me”!. Is that right?

#4158

Gareth King’s dictionary suggests “cynnal (stem cynhali-)” for “holding a function.” As an example he gives:
We’re having a party tomorrow = *Dyn ni’n cynnal parti yfory"

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#4159

Thanks Sionned. That makes sense if I’m the one hosting the meeting, but what if I’m just attending it?

#4160

yes, cael is fine. In fact I’ve just had an email from a colleague (who is a 1st language speaker) and I quote -
“Sai’n syniad da i ni gael cyfarfod cynhyrchu wsnos nesa”.
:slight_smile:

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#4161

I love SSiW (and also FB Iaith) for this. Real spoken Welsh :+1:

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#4162

What does this mean? From what I’ve seen “Sai’n” is a negation in the first person singular, but I can’t see how that fits with “syniad da”. Perhaps I’m just being thick.

#4163

Yes, “sai’n” as a negation is one meaning (usually Southern), but in this case he’s shortened “bysai’n syniad da” = it would be a good idea. He’s from the North!

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#4164

Just when I thought Welsh was easy… (said no one ever!)

Thanks Siaron (again!)

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#4165

@siaronjames may I say thanks again too, diolch eto, hefyd? You are so very helpful!

#4166

:blush:

#4167

As I’m still at work :frowning: I thought I’d mention that “Cynnal” is also used for the “maintenance” bit of “Motorway Maintenance” on our Welsh vans. Also it’s easier to spell (and fit onto a van) than maintenance. :slight_smile: Sort of upkeep, uphold type of meaning.

#4168

Can you “cynnal y gyfraith”?

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