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Tiny questions with quick answers - continuing thread


#7168

If you want to learn Welsh, you are definitely in the right place! :slight_smile:
There are different ways to work through the main material after the “taster course”, and one of the ways is through a structured course that takes two years to complete, in which the material is presented in sessions of six minutes. Another structured course gets you through the same material in six months, and there every lesson itself lasts 30 minutes.
You can also work through the material at your own pace. And whatever you do, if you have questions, don’t hesitate to ask, and we’ll help in any way we can!
Pob lwc! (Good luck!)


#7169

Thanks, that’s really helpful. I’m in the right place then, I have plenty of time and want to go quicker! One more thing… I have this on the app and I haven’t paid anything. Should I be paying? Or am I still doing a trial?


#7170

You can access the first 15 lessons of level 1 without paying. If you want to go on past that, you’ll have to pay for a subscription or a structured course.
(If you do continue through to challenge 15, and you then switch to a structured course, you’ll see the same material again, as the courses start with challenge 1. But in the structured course you also get access to additional tasks and online tutoring which gets you to fluency faster.)


#7171

Aha, thanks, that’s good to know. If I sign up to pay at lesson 15 can I then jump back to that point so I don’t need to repeat any content?


#7172

Once you are signed up, you have access to all material within the app. If you sign up for a structured course, you’ll also receive material through email, but like I said, for a while that material will consist of things you have already heard.


#7173

Brill, thanks for all your help :grinning:


#7174

So, when talking about something, the sentences on the southern course change subtly but i don’t know why. I’m not sure if my spelling is correct by the gist is: “We talked about it” goes to “on i’n siarad am danni”, “what do you think about the book we talked about?” goes to "Beth o ti’n meddwl am yr llyfr on i’n siarad am danno fe? " and talking about something else ended in just “… am danno”. Is this to do with the gender of the subject of tge conversation?
Thanks
Gareth


#7175

yup, exactly.
‘am’ conjugates - as do several prepositions.
amdanaf - about me
amdanat - about you
am - about the book
amdani - about her / about it (feminine noun)
amdano - about him / about it (masculine noun)
amdanon - about us
amdanoch - about you
amdanyn(t) - about them


#7176

Thanks Siaron but that means ‘about the book’ would be ‘am y llyfr’ and so what happens to ‘… the book we talked about’?
I don’t understand whether the use of ‘…am danno’ and ‘…am danno fe’ are really different or like when you say ‘your coffee’ as ‘dy goffi’ or ‘dy goffi di’.


#7177

In Welsh, it kind of translates as “the book we talked about it/him”, so we can say
Nathon ni siarad am y llyfr - we talked about the book
or
Y llyfr nathon ni siarad amdano - the book we talked about (it/him)

It is similar to the split pronoun where you can leave off the final bit - as long as you have the conjugated preposition, you can leave off the i/ti/fe/hi etc, so I guess I should have put it like this:
amdanaf (fi)
amdanat (ti)
amdani (hi)
amdano (fe/fo)
amdanon (ni)
amdanoch (chi)
amdanyn(t) (nhw)


#7178

Thank you again. The penny has dropped. I understand. https://tse2.mm.bing.net/th?id=OGC.03294bfad75bbc02f857934063a3e2f6&pid=Api&rurl=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia.giphy.com%2Fmedia%2F26n6R5HOYPbekK0YE%2Fgiphy.gif&ehk=D7cE%2B0gXzz1YrUImKhhl5LpMt%2BsmluQ3gcBZEVCZU8o%3D


#7179

I’m not a Welsh speaker -yet but I would say ‘Croeso’


#7180

Ok, I thought “that’s children for you” was a weird thing to ever want to say in Welsh - or any other language.
But this one from Duolingo (that I’m trying again during lockdown) definitely beats it! :rofl:

translate

What in the world does this mean? :thinking:


#7181

A “pet hate” is a colloquial phrase meaning something you particularly dislike. It’s quite commonly used in English. I don’t know if Welsh has an equivalent.


#7182

A ‘pet hate’ in Welsh is “casbeth” - literally “hate thing”. A definition in English is a minor annoyance that a person identifies as particularly annoying to them, to a greater degree than it may be to others


#7183

I’m struggling with two phrases on Level 2 Challenge 15:

1 dau y peth gorau i’w neud (beth yw i’w?)

2 taw dyna (beth yw taw?)

Can anyone help please?


#7184
  1. i’w is a contraction of “i ei”. In Welsh we have a kind of an ‘it’ that refers back if the subject is in front of the verb rather than following it, so
    i neud y peth gorau = to do the best thing (peth gorau comes after the verb neud, so we just have the ‘i’)
    y peth gorau i’w neud = the best thing to do (it) (the implied ‘it’ refers to ‘y peth gorau’ which comes before the verb neud, so we need the ‘it’, which is ‘ei’, but you don’t have ‘i’ and ‘ei’ together, so the ‘ei’ turns into a 'w).

  2. taw is ‘that’ when the sentence is an affirmative indirect or focused one. There are a few ways to say ‘that’ and it can be confusing as to which to use where, but don’t worry too much about it, just let the pattern sink in.


#7185

Well, casbeth makes sense! :smiley:

Not so thinking of how driving in the winter could be linked to a “hamster hate” or “cat hate”, for example.
Or even considering possible that “a pet is driving in the winter,” (there’s a draig saying good night in some Duolingo sentences so might as well be), why would “hate” be there.

Ah, English language! :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:


#7186

The confusion over pet is that originally “pet” meant something more like “a thing dear to you”, not specifically an animal that lives with you. It’s still used that way in the North East of England where you’ll hear people addressed “pet” or in phrases like, “be a pet and fetch that book for me.” So “pet hate” is like a “dearest hate” or “favourite hate”. If that makes sense!

@siaronjames Thanks for “casbeth”. Much more literal. :smile:


#7187

Hi everyone, can anyone recommend a good programme on s4c for a brand new learner to enjoy? I’m really really enjoying iaeth ar daith, and fancy trying something else. But i don’t understand anything on the title page on the iPlayer app. I don’t want anything with ‘adult themes’ , just something entertaining and interesting :grinning: