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Tatjana - progress reports
tatjana
#465
Continuing āstori bachā ā¦
Iām sitting here now. Itās late at night ā¦ no, itās early in the morning, almost 1 am the big clock on my computer shows. Iām listening to some of the best movie soundtracks of all times (by my choice of course), spreading thoughts about today ā¦
āPaid becsoā said @AnnaC. Everyone would understand you saying ābus stopā points out @ramblingjohn ā¦ both as true as this day.
After some slight missunderstandings regarding time, @aran and I finally managed to bring our conversation to life. I was quite nervous, looking at some silly notes of words Iāve put on the list in the early morning ā¦ Hmmm. If I look back now, what was I so nervous about? Thereās nothing to be nervous about at all. Aran called, Iāve answered, switching on camera ā¦ I still had that silly list on the screen but there was no time to look at it anymore. We started to talk but nothing about what woudl be on that list.
āBeth maeān digwydd mewn Slofenia?ā (or something similar) was one of Aranās questions.
"Oh, beth maeān digwydd? Llaywer o pethiau! Yniān enill ā¦ ummm ā¦ " I was looking on the list trying to find those words Iāve written down. I wanted to tell how our golden eagle Peter Prevc won the 4 hills turnee and about ski jumpingsā¦ I couldnāt find anything but only about 10 words were written there. Ah, who cares about lists and whatās written there Iāve said to myself and just blurted something about the subject out ā¦ It was even not so bad at the end. Aran could understand me (at least I think he could). Then on Iāve just talked whatever subject we jumped on. All of a sudden it was all easy and fun. I felt I could go on talking for hours and I believe the more Iād talk the more accurate my forms of sentences would be. What we talked about? all sorts of things, from snow and if it falls or not, do we prefer winter from summer or oposite way, what I do as my job (the most clueless about what should I say here was this moment though), about how I feel talking Cymraeg. Yah it was fun and easy. I was even alowed to say some English words which I really couldnāt remember how to say and Aran told me Welsh equivalent. Nah, I didnāt remember them all but some of them surely had hidden themselves somewhere in my head and are waiting to step out when neccessary.
If yesterdayās sgwrs with @brigitte (pardon me, I couldnāt remember how to say sgwrs in English) was intensive, this one was even more. But I wasnāt rain of English words this time - oh, no - I was rain of Cymraeg and when one canāt stop you talking in the target language you learn ā¦ then you know you started to really speak it ā¦
Despite my mistakes and constant āsut i ddweud eā murmuring to myself I (ahhh, finally one would say) I now officially proclaim Iām a Welsh speaker. (on a ground what Aran and some of you say ā¦)
Well, hereās a lot to be learnt yet and my grammar part has to be hugely upgraded with the most up to date version of āsoftwareā but anyway ā¦ here I go, having not one native speaker in my near to be engaged into conversations with, not one single other person learning in my country (or Iām mistaken?) Iāve managed to come this far thanks to SSiW, thanks to Aran and team behind the scene, thanks to you all!
Oh, there will surely be some moanings of mine in the future when learning lessons, I have no doubt about that but knowing that I am more comfortable when I freely speak to the people then when Iām learning new stuff in a lesson is kind of relief, isnāt it?
So, here I am ā¦ sittng behind my computer, writting these lines and now listening to some of my silly electronically created melodies ā¦ Itās 1:30 in the morning now ā¦ a new day is rising. Just three more hours and Iāll have to jump out of my bed again being prepared to go to work. Yesterday didnāt start the best way possible, but it ended that way. Thank you.
And just for the fun of it ā¦ here are my silly musical creations. Nothing for what I could become notorious thiugh, just silly soundtracks for the movie I once planed to create but it never happened though.
Music Creations (unfortunately thereās nothing yn Cymraeg though).
THE END, FINE, ENDE, Y diwedd, FIN, KONEC ā¦ [SIZE=10]of the story of course, all the rest is going on ā¦ [/size]
aran
#468
Ahhhhā¦ Iāve been waiting to hear thatā¦ 
Oh yes - but whenever there are, I (and others, Iām sure!) will point you back at:
Iām glad you feel like this, Tatjana - because if you hadnāt, I would have had to be quite stern with you! Your improvement in just 3 months was clear and significant - youāve gone from being able to produce sentences one at a time to being able to produce paragraphs, and to communicate on a whole range of subjects. You are, absolutely certainly, a Welsh speaker - so your scores on the last session of Course 2 are good enough.
Sure - as you keep on revisiting the lessons 25 (Course 1 and Course 2) once every month or two, and as you work through Level 2, you will challenge yourself, you will find things difficult, you will feel frustrated - but you will also, clearly, without ANY doubt, continue to find it easier and easier to communicate in Welsh.
Llongyfarchiadau mawrā¦ 
AnnaC
#469
Hwre! So happy to read your āstori bachā and see that you had a great sgwrs, a happy experience, and best of all, came out knowing that you believe, from inside yourself, that you CAN speak Welsh! Tiān seren
tatjana
#470
I knew youād say this. But I didnāt say what I did becase youād want to hear it but I really feel so in deed.
I know ā¦ Iād be angry and fed with myself if I wouldnāt feel like this too.
Iāll have to do this first now. I feel Iām a bit out of track ā¦ Then on to Challenge 11 of Level 2 which is still waiting for me despite thereās Challenge 12 out already. Holidays caught me in a āsweet dreamsā mommentum - hehe ā¦
Diolch yn fawr iawn ac diolch am sgwrsiau. Dwiān gobeithio yniān gallu siarad un waith aār ol peth amser.
Diolch! Diolch! Diolch!
Thank you @AnnaC. I bet youād be able to speak quite the same as I did itās just that you donāt know that yet. Now Iāll have more motivation and energy to motivate all the rest of you when needed too. Iām happy if people are happy.
Diolch yn fawr iawn ond bydda iān aros yn gadarn ar y ddaear. (Iāll stay solid on the ground).
And, I didnāt shine all the time in my learning process on and off learning course. As Iāve hoummorously said ā¦ am in need to āupgrade my softwareā to be up to date. - hehe.
AnnaC
#471
I think we can all say the same!
Nobody shines all the time! Youāre still a star
Not yet, Iām only halfway through Course 2. Youāve covered a lot more ground than I have. But Iāve been able to get back to work on the lessons lately, so hopefully lots of progress is about to happen! Tasen iān gallu gweithioān gyflymach, bysen iān dysgu mwy o Gymraeg!
theresacorbett
#473
@tatjana has your copy of wcw the childrenās magazine arrived? How long did it take?
tatjana
#474
Oooo, yes, @theresacorbett the copy of WCW arrived and it didnāt take more then 10 days or so. Itās a bit thinner then I thought but quality stuff. Slowly reading ā¦ (Well, very slowly though).
To @aran
Iām at chapter 3 now. Your advise of listening to the book rather then reading it helps a lot however Iāve got a bit stuck in that Chapter 3 right now since Iām a bit preoccupied (in my head) with some exciting things regarding Cymraeg which might take place in the future. I wonāt say more yet but maybe Iāll be able to siarad Cymraeg in person with someone in about two months or so. Looking forward ā¦
Now Iāll go back tu slumber not to reveal too much ā¦ - hehe
Oh, and, just for the record: Iāve returned to Level 2 and did those 2 remaining Challenges - Challenge 11 and 12. It seamed ābadā outcome to me when I did them, but when Iāve got back to statistics when I finished it was quite surprising. 11 was (I believe) 24 % and 12 was 54 %. Challenge 12 seamed a bit easier to me though and this for percentage is higher.
Well, this is all for now!
tatjana
#476
Even if it wouldnāt be so, itās interesting. One actually knows prety much everything what is written inthere but is just not aware of it or (maybe this was/is my case) one feels like they donāt need to change mindset or whatever. But yes, so far itās great.
tatjana
#477
Just to let you know that Iām 3 days off work this week (well, at least itās set to be so, but you never know though) so if anyone has some desire to chat on Skype with me, I could do that in the afternoon/evening except on Thursday evening when I and @brigitte have our (now i already can say that) multilingual session.
tatjana
#478
Since Iāve gone through all material available on South part (only Challenge 14 of Level 2 remained) I decided Iād go once again through the whole material on daily basis this time without any measuring or percentage horrassing myself and all of you on here.
The reason: When doing Challenge 13 of Level 2 last night I realized I donāt remember and canāt use many quite important structures but rather use very simple ones or I use them even wrong. This is what Iāve noticed through the all conversations I had. Why from the very beginning? Just for fun of it and to go once again through the material and see where there are my weak points in using proper words, structures etc ā¦
I decided Iāll also go through Lessons 25 of all courses and Levels once a month and those recommended C1L24/25 and C224/25 once in 3 months.
All aditional things like some reading of my beloved CWC (Iāve just subscribed to and is regularly comming into my house by mail now), doing some lessons on DuoLingo (if not for the other then for testing and giving some feedback if asked for it and possibly learning some additional things) or maybe peering into Welsh Rules, listening to Radio Cymru, music or watching S4C - those are just additional things which might come handy.
Iām definately determined to become real Welsh speaker and I take challenges @dee had set in front of me ā¦ taking part of online Eisteddfod this year (how strange, I canāt find that post on here anymore.) and ā¦ going for Dysgwr y Flwyddyn in a year or two (if life doesnāt play hard on me and Iāll be as talkative as I am now. - haha! )
However, Iāll still report my first going through the lessons (like I went through Challenge 13 for the first time yesterday). Doing Chalenge 14 today or maybe tomorrow Iāll have another set of 7 lessons ready to report about. I can say only that previously I wouldnāt be even a bit satisfied with outcome, but now ā¦ jaaaaaaaaaa ā¦ thanks to @aran and all the rest of you, my thinking changed and I think what I have to report I see as prety good results now. But more about this when I finish Challenge 14.
Tan a tro nesa!
Hwyl!
ramblingjohn
#480
As ever you are not alone: but i think the skype time is making a real difference because others use phrases we had forgotten and those jump into action, by the end of the year we may be struggling with some really complex stuff 
Cheers J.P.
tatjana
#481
Or we will struggle how to actually say things easier way. - hehe
And of course, youāre right in everything youāve written.
tatjana
#482
I donāt know why exactly, but Iāve just got the idea of reading my first post in this thread @aran once created for me. Probably I found myself here reading it because of so many views of this topic and wonders of what people can actually pull out of it and possibly learn from my āhorrasementā of the forum inhere ā¦ And just look at this!
I mean, what was I thinking? I must have been really angry at myself and my (un)progressing to go with something like this.
So, if even might seam to you Iām repeating myself about what I will write now there will be never enough "thank you"s to all of you who encourraged me to stay, to go on, to learn and to be alowed to help others when I could/can.
Iāve said it so many times and Iāll say this again! [size=40]THANK YOU ONE AND ALL![/size] After just 1 (more) year of learning I CAN produce something useful, so Iāve reached that acheavement. I can tweet much more then just āNos da. Cysgu yn dda ac Breuddwydion melys.ā and all thanks to you. I even manage to have fun when talking and most of all, Iām not horrassing this forum and you all with my anger upon myself which many sometimes seam to take as if it would be aimed upon them ā¦
For all those Ė"hidden talents" of angrying upon themselves who are fortunately clever enough not to stress their anger on here I pass recommendation @aran gave me once - go with tthe flow and, yes, read the most imporant book of your life [size=30]āMINDSETā[/size]. If youāre not too stubborn to at least try to āobeyā some of suggestions in it, your thinking and possibly life will slowly but steadily change.
[size=40]Diolch yn fawr iawn i bawb ac diolch yn fawr iawn i Aran![/size]