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Tiny questions with quick answers - continuing thread


#6947

Found this on kimkat.org …hen hen wefan!


#6948

Good work Brynle!


#6949

A local bbc site claims “cered” is “tafodiaith canolbarth”/mid walian dialect … so I’ll take it … although I saw that ‘ar gered’ sign in Caerfyddin/Carmarthen! - so maybe more widepsread than they claim?:smiley:

Anyone know what the nuanced meaning of ‘syniad’ (idea) is here? Diolch

Syniad da sounds better to me … “Might be a GOOD idea to check and update your internet browser”

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#6950

Well although I’d read it simply as “Might be an idea to check…etc”, a couple of nuanced meanings of syniad that seem to fit would be ‘common sense’ or ‘prudence’, so “It might be prudent to check… etc”.

Also, so sorry to hear about your Tad-cu. I lost one of my Granchers (S.E Wales Wenglish) at Christmas too, but long ago now. It’s bad enough to lose them anytime, but it’s especially difficult at Christmas. x


#6951

Light hearted question.
What is the (ultra) Welsh word for banana, please. The one that never gets used. I dont just mean “Nana”.

I’m just discussing it with a Welsh 1st language speaker and he’s never heard of one as it is international. I can’t find it in a dictionary either.

Any ideas?


#6952

It’s ‘ffrwchnedd’.
It’s a relatively recent word apparently:

Iwan Wmffre, “Learners, Native Speakers and the Authenticity of Language”. In Communicating Cultures, ed. Ullrich Kockel and Máiréad Nic Craith. Münster (2004): LIT Verlag, ISBN 9783825866433, p. 162.

This work includes the following text:

  • … exclaim ‘They haven’t got a word for bananas!’ after he heard a conversation by Welsh native speakers. However, a term ffrwchnedd was ‘magicked’ sometime before the end of the 1980s to the satisfaction of purists, at least, and is now fairly well known, though it has not received the approval of Welsh dictionaries*

#6953

Great thanks Siaron. Ha ha. I’m tempted to bring one along to tonight’s Slack meeting :rofl:


#6954

I first saw ffrwchnedd used on the menu of a pancake stall in the Urdd eisteddfod about 5 years ago, great word. I only ever use it to explain how I personally want to know every Welsh word even if I don’t want to use them just in case someone else does … the same with “cawrfil”, another great word.


#6955

If it’s any consolation, there isn’t a long-standing English word for ‘banana’ either :slightly_smiling_face: - according to my dictionary it’s a Spanish or Portuguese word derived from the native word in Guinea


#6956

my man = fy nyn or fy dyn?
Fy nyn just sounds, and looks wrong.

Any advice?


#6957

Is it perhaps that ‘my man’ is an English idiom that’s just foreign to Welsh, i.e. you need to use partner, gŵr, gwas etc?


#6958

I’m doing some creative writing and I want my dog to refer to my husband as ‘my man’. If that helps.


#6959

Maybe you could use just 'nyn with the apostrophe standing for fy?


#6960

Technically it would be “fy nyn”, but yes it does sound odd because I guess it’s not a widely used phrase. However, ‘gŵr’ does not only mean ‘husband’, it can mean ‘man’ and also ‘master’ - and of course the “fy ngŵr” mutation sounds much more familiar to our ears!


#6961

Thanks @johnwilliams_6, thanks @siaronjames


#6962

I think you’ll find we have no need for a native word!


#6963

I’m not so sure about that, actually - in my experience the ydi spelling seems more common among the gogs of my acquaintance than among the poor hwntws.


#6964

I had to do a doubletake there. I read Uwd Eisteddfod first time :joy:


#6965

They do say breakfast is the most important meal of the day


#6966

Looking for the word for to avoid. I was mentioning to someone that “I left early to avoid the traffic”. For avoid, I went for osgoi. Methu, Ffili (ffaelu) and arbed came to mind. But the last two didnt seem to fit.
Methu felt like I missed it as in I wish it had been there.
Any thoughts please?